On 13 May 2025 Neil Lawrence was a guest on BBC Radio 4’s The Life Scientific, in conversation with Jim Al-Khalili. The episode is Neil Lawrence on taking down the ‘digital oligarchy’ and why we shouldn’t fear AI.

The discussion moves through Neil’s career across academia and industry — movie animation, Formula 1, medical research, and a spell as Director of Machine Learning at Amazon — and into the argument of The Atomic Human: learn to use AI, but keep a sceptical eye on how data is used and on the power of large platforms. The through-line is making a difference to everyday life rather than treating robots-taking-over as the main story.

A World Service reversion aired later on Discovery (18 August 2025).